Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: It had been 385 days on Saturday since Arkansas have won an FBS game. That losing streak is over. The Razorbacks beat Tulsa 34 to 6 on a rainy night at Razorback Stadium to improve to 2 and 2. Arkansas next will play Texas A and M this weekend at 6:00 on ESPN2. Tom Murphy in studio here with me.
Let's focus on the positives first because there, there are some negatives I still think to point out from Arkansas as it relates to the rest of their season.
The positive is that they played a team, Tulsa, that was pretty overmatched on Saturday night. And you know, Tulsa came in undefeated, kind of feeling themselves. They'd beat Oklahoma State earlier this year over at Chapman Stadium. And there was some thought that Tulsa could make it a better game than they made it. And they got close in the third quarter, they made it a 10 point game. Felt like the game was maybe in the balance a little bit when Tulsa went down and scored their touchdown and then they failed on the onside kick. Arkansas scored really quickly and from that point, you know, the Razorbacks were, were in control. It felt like they controlled the game for, I don't know, Tom, probably 90% or so of the game. It felt like Arkansas was really kind of imposing whatever it wanted to do on offense, whatever it wanted to do on defense. And that was good to see against a team like Tulsa that I think they were, I don't think they're as good as people thought they were Coming into it, they were getting some votes in the AP poll. I think they're probably going to end up being a team that, you know, is 500 or maybe a little bit better in their conference.
But good win for Arkansas and now they get off this FBS losing streak. We can stop talking about, you know, last year was the last time they'd won an FBS game and now we move forward and we see what they can do in the sec.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Well, Matt, I don't want to come across as some kind of football savant, but you and I both, before the game we talked about this and felt very comfortable that Arkansas was going to win the game and cover.
And I believe you said something about two touchdowns and it ended up being four touchdowns. What I thought about Tulsa, that was a huge win for them and it means more for them to beat Oklahoma State than it does to beat Arkansas.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: And they didn't have their quarterback on Saturday night. That's a big deal.
[00:02:12] Speaker B: They didn't, but I thought it helped Arkansas that they beat okay Oklahoma State. So they're three and oh, they're this team that has all this confidence.
And I detected improvement and belief after that Georgia game. And maybe it was the fourth quarter that like just keeping on trying and scoring a couple of times, even if that's against Georgia's backups. So I felt fairly confident that Arkansas was going to win the game in a handy fashion. What I didn't expect was the way they schemed Tulsa up defensively to limit the run limit demaray. Alston never really got going. I would have said 100 yards, maybe not 65 yards. And look, shout out to Ron Roberts, Ryan Silverfield, all the player acquisition team at Arkansas. They did a good job on some defensive player acquisitions. They went very deep in that game. And I don't mean like second level.
They were without Bradley Shaw, Wyatt Simmons. They went deep at linebacker. They went really deep on the defensive line. Danny Beal is knocking passes down in the fourth quarter.
They, Taylor played some in the secondary. They had guys they're playing on their third deep in a lot of positions. So very well schemed up.
You and I foresaw that coming and they took care of business. They were the better team.
Now when Tulsa scored its touchdown, if they had scored that two point conversion, it changes things. Now you're one score. It's like the Falcons in the super bowl when they, they kept being like 16 points ahead of the Patriots and you're like, that doesn't look good. It didn't work out for the Falcons, but it did work out for the Razorbacks and they really, you know, it was a great onside kick recovery by Jeremy Evans over there on the right side and they just went down. Bam, bam, bam. Chris Marshall got his first touchdown and they look like a new team because they really struggled to score offensively once they got in the red zone in the first half. And these are issues they've still got to work out because that a gap blitzing, they're not handling that very well.
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The play of Chris Marshall, I think, is highly encouraging for Arkansas. You know, you look at it the other night, nine catches for 195 yards and he did it all in the first three quarters. When they got to the fourth quarter, I'm sitting there going through the record book and saying, okay, well Colby Hamilton had 303 yards and Jerus Wright had 281. Where's he going to end up? Because I was certain that he still had a big play left in him. They never targeted him in the fourth quarter and I was a little bit surprised by that.
But still, it's the seventh best receiving performance ever by a Razorback. If you're just going by yardage, there have been six who have gotten 200 or more yards. He fell just short of that at 195, but he's leading the SEC in a lot of categories right now.
In the last two games, he's caught I don't know how many passes, but he's got 331 receiving yards against Georgia and Tulsa.
And he wasn't doing it just against Georgia's backups either. I think that's a real bright spot for Arkansas to be able to try to build around.
But on the flip side, you know that beginning this week when they play A and M, Mike Elko, really good defensive coordinator, that's going to start becoming the focal point of these teams. They're playing if is taking away Chris Marshall and seeing if somebody else can beat them. And right now, I mean, Jaden Platt made some plays the other day at tight end, but right now there's just not a whole lot happening outside of Chris Marshall. Offensively, I thought they were able to get K.J. jackson out and run him a little bit. Maybe that showed him some things that they can do offensively. But the question I have now in the next few weeks is can Arkansas continue to have success offensively in if teams are able to take Chris Marshall away?
[00:06:54] Speaker B: That is a great question because people keep asking me that, who's their second best skill guy and you want to say, well, Sutton Smith, but he hasn't gotten out in the loose.
C.J. brown and Ishmael Cece and Jamari Hawkins, well, you know, they don't get targeted a ton of times per game. And so Ryan Silverfield even mentioned this Saturday teams are going to start rolling their coverages, they're going to start bracketing Marshall. You still have to throw him the ball some for sure, particularly if they read man coverage. They've got to go to him. But the times that he's covered up, bracketed, whatever, someone else is going to be in, man, and you got to trust your guys. I mean, maybe, maybe Antonio Jordan comes along, he's getting some reps.
But I think the tight ends are going to be really valuable because teams now see they can blitz Arkansas and get a man free sometimes and they don't always cover everybody up and KJ has got to get a better sense of where it's coming from and who's his hot read.
I don't want to get too deep in the weeds, but that's an important part of what they're going to. They're counter to teams covering up Kris Marshall.
I don't know what they're going to do about the run game.
They kept at it and they had some success in the fourth quarter in managing the clock and so on. And I think Braylon Russell's got to keep coming on. They talk about running behind his pads and pass pro and all this, but I think he's their best natural tackle breaker and I like Cam Settles a lot too and I like Sutton Smith. I guess they have to just keep pushing it, but until they can run for 120 yards a game or more, it's going to be an issue facing this offense and what your counter strategies are to the Kris Marshall stuff.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Didn't it seem like Arkansas did a lot better running the ball when they got out of their zone blocking schemes in the fourth quarter and they just started going downhill against Tulsa and I wonder if that might be something that they realize on tape and say, hey, we might need to be doing more of this and less of that.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: That is a great question and we will see if that is a thing moving forward. Also, they replaced Bryant Williams at right tackle and Adam Hawk's got a lot of playing time in the second half.
The Left side of the Line Cole Kubelik does a weekly, you know, analysis of every team and he praised the left side of the line and Kaden Kittler for just being more physical and so, you know, these are steps in the right direction. Obviously the whole thing works hand in glove. Running backs and tight ends have to block too. KJ's got to do better reads.
But perhaps you're onto something there with the man schemes and just trying to run downhill and give your, give your backs a chance to maybe make a safety miss. Because I don't think they've had a run longer than 12 or 15 yards by a running back.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: Not a big one. Yeah, I mean like the biggest plays from their running backs have been. I think Braylon Russell, the catch he had in the fourth quarter might have been the biggest play that they've had from running back. And obviously that was in the passing game. I thought the run game was going to be key to this game though, because, and I said this beforehand, I thought even with Arkansas struggles on the offensive front, I thought they were probably going to be the best offensive line Tulsa had gone up against. And I think that that proved to be the case, you know, and I thought the run game was going to be real key in this. Arkansas came in 137th offensively and 87th defensively against the run. Tulsa was 31st running the ball and they were 41st against the run. And Arkansas just owned the line of scrimmage. I mean, Arkansas ran 43 times for 132 yards that included some sacks. Tulsa ran 23 times for 65 yards that also included some sacks. But you know, it just felt like Arkansas, they were in control along the offensive line. And I have to believe that when you played Utah and Georgia in back to back weeks and then you play, Tulsa feels easier.
I don't know there's any other way to say it. It just feels easier now. They step back into the SEC this week and it's going to get a lot more physical again with Tennessee and Texas A and M this week and then Tennessee. But I just, I felt like maybe they grew up some by the challenges that they had to face in those Georgia and Utah games.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: Yeah, a few shout outs here. One, I got a sense from Ryan Silverfield after the Georgia game and you know, the post game and then Monday that his belief in the fact that they were going to show improvement was real that week and they did. Home atmosphere.
I think they put those sirens in on third down for Tulsa because I, I want to say that used to
[00:11:34] Speaker A: be a train or they still played the train some, but I never heard the, the sirens. The sirens I think were a Tulsa hurricane sirens.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: I believe they were. And honestly, when you're covering a game. A lot of that stuff you, goes over your head, but you could hear it, you could feel it. There was a lot of piped in stuff, but I thought the crowd for the representation, you know, they were loud and it, the atmosphere played a role in that game. Second, they wore Tulsa down. And I think the touchdown that made it 23 to 6. The belief for Tulsa started to drain a little and I think they wore on that defensive front. And Trey Lamb even said it after the game that Arkansas had the ball for 37 minutes in that game. And that just wears you down. First of all, you're behind, it might be hard to catch up. And then you just keep getting pounded. On the fourth quarter, they ran the ball fairly well against him and Braylon Russell had a nice, really nice sequence through there, the one that included that catch. He had some strong runs as well. So the shout outs are. They wore him down. I think their defensive front also defeated Tulsa and Tulsa lost an offensive lineman in that game. And when they brought the backup in, we're like, oh, wow, that's Quincy Rhodes against a fresh offensive tackle. And I think Rhodes only wound up with one. He had one sack, one sack. But I just believe, you know, he defeated his man a lot. And again, I go back to the depth that they're showing on that front. Trajan Odom's getting a lot of run. Hunter Osborne, Okie, Carlin, Jones. I mean, we haven't seen a lineup of 300 pounders in the, in the rotation on, on a front for Arkansas and like this in many years.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Now, the, the downside to Saturday night is how Arkansas performed in the red zone. Because if they, if they punch in even, you know, if they capitalize a couple of more times in the red zone, it's, it's a total, totally different feeling I think that we have about the game. But they had a lot of struggles in the red zone. I think I counted Tom that they had first goal or first down at the Tulsa 12, 12, 14 and 5.
And all four of those possessions were field goals that they had to settle for. And so that's, that's a concern for them because again, it's going to get more difficult defensively, you know, and I think it starts with the run game. Again, I didn't think the run game was very good in the red zone.
You know, I think that K.J. jackson, his decision making to me seems delayed at times. And it's like that, it's like that little moment of hesitation can be the difference between a Play working and a play getting, you know, blown up. And I felt like you saw that some in the red zone. Now he made some plays in the red zone. He had a couple of really nice touchdown runs from the 11 and the 10.
But it just goes back to consistency for me. They're just very inconsistent offensively, really across the board. But it feels like it gets magnified when they get in the red zone. They've got to get better in the red zone or. Or they're going to have trouble. They're going to have trouble winning many more games this year anyway, but they're going to really have trouble if they can't get their red zone offense better and capitalize when they have the opportunities.
[00:14:44] Speaker B: If you're in an SEC game that winds up being tight and you end up doing those things in the red zone, you're going to lose the game. Now, I don't remember every play, but I do remember, as I've mentioned, a gap pressure. Is that KJ not calling the right protection? Is that. Is it an O lineman not hearing it right or not executing what the protection is?
And then KJ his sight has to be. This guy's coming right here. I think they're going to have to move the pocket more when they get inside the 10 to give him some options to run the ball, to possibly get it to a running back somehow or to throw it, because just being in the pocket did not work out for him in that game. And that was one of the times he got like double. He got double folded. And I wondered if he was going to get up from that because they got after him.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: Oh, when the guy speared him, I
[00:15:39] Speaker B: think there was a. He was taking a low hit and then a spear at the same. He just got contorted and you worry about, you know, where his legs wound up.
[00:15:48] Speaker A: So he took some big hits.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: He. He really did.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Really.
[00:15:51] Speaker B: He was limping around a little bit after one of them. So they've got to do a better job of protecting him and just being creative because I think offensive play calling and the scheming I've noted from Utah to Georgia to. To Tulsa has gotten improved and they've done some cool things. The throwback pass to A.J. hill, whatever that might have been, the Georgia game, that didn't work out too well.
And so I think the end of rounds would.
Jelani Hawkins or Jelani Watkins have been pretty good.
They got to keep up, keep things like that in the back, in the bag. And then I don't know what the answer is in the red zone, other than maybe move the pocket more and maybe throw some fades and stuff.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: So Texas A and M, that's the game this weekend. A and M kind of. Kind of.
They're gonna get A and M mad, I think maybe is the best way to put it. It's gonna be a night game at Kyle Field.
That is a tough place to play.
You wonder how, you know, great the crowd's going to be when they, you know, they just lost to Kentucky and then obviously got it put on him by LSU the other night.
But, you know, I mean, A and M, they still have a lot to play for. They got two losses. We've seen teams with two losses get back in the playoff hunt. I think it's going to be very difficult for A and M to do that this year. But, you know, their season, their season is not over by any stretch of the imagination.
A and M's a 14 and a half point favorite. I don't know if I was real surprised to see that.
Maybe I thought it would open. I think it opened at 15 and a half. Maybe I thought it opened a little bit lower. But A and M, they were number eight in the country when the season started for a reason. They got a lot of players back from their playoff team last year.
I feel like the key to this game Saturday, one of the many, is going to be quarterback play because it's been inconsistent for Arkansas and it's been really inconsistent for A and M. Marcel Reed continues to be just.
I don't know what the word is, but, boy, it's. You just don't ever know what you're going to get from him. And it's not been good the last couple of weeks.
[00:17:54] Speaker B: I think erratic might come into play there. I'm just looking at his completion percentage, 55.4. As the Arkansas game was ending, or maybe when I was leaving the press box, I heard someone say there's actually going to be a fan base that's more ticked off than Arkansas this week. And look, after you make the playoff and your quarterback's young, you kind of feel like, okay, we're just going to carry this on. I'm not sure what all. They lost clearly a lot defensively, I think, but reed is just 55.4% and he's already got four interceptions on the year. He's six to four on touchdowns and interceptions. So he's a part of why they're struggling. Reuben Owens, who I thought was a fantastic running back, he's averaging 4.4 yards a carry and it reads numbers. Admittedly, there's two SEC games, one against what you would consider a very strong defense in lsu. But these are two games before that where he could have been racking up numbers and he just didn't do it.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: So he looked really bad against Kentucky.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: He did.
I'm going to say the four lines that Arkansas.
The lines, betting lines. I felt very comfortable when I saw each one of those. This is one I'm not as comfortable with. I thought it might be 11.
It's 14 and a half. It's tempting to say maybe Arkansas plays it close. I'm not saying what I would bet, but if I was a gambling guy, I would have won money on the first four Arkansas games because I thought I felt very comfortable with the lines and what I felt about those games.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: We put something out on our website yesterday. The, the SEC efficiency ratings. And these are something that we do.
We'll update every week moving forward the rest of the season. You got to wait a few weeks before you can get enough data to put this together, but feel fairly comfortable with it now. We've made a change to it this year where we're going to. We're going to. Basically we're going to track every FBS game as opposed to. In the past, it's just been power four games and select games against group of six. So now it's every FBS game that goes into this right now. Tom, Arkansas is number 16 overall. Number 16 on defense. Number 16 overall by a good bit, too. I mean, they're. They're quite a ways behind Vanderbilt, the number 16 on defense, and they're number 14 on offense. A and M.
This is where you think it could get a little interesting. A and M's 12 on offense, A and M's 11 on defense and 11 as a team.
Arkansas A and M always is one of those series where it just feels like Arkansas either plays up or A and M plays down.
And it's a lot more competitive on, on average than it feels like it should be.
But I wonder if that's going to be the case on. On Saturday night. Again. I think you get A and M going to be really hungry, really focused, really angry from the results of the last two weeks.
But I wonder if Arkansas has got a little bit of confidence that they go in there and play at a higher level than they did when they went on the road the first time.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a great question and I don't know what the answer is going to be. I got to dive into the game a little more, you know, deeply. But kudos to you for inputting. That's a ton of information to have to input on those games on your rankings.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: Oh, it's fun.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: Well, it turns you into a little bit of a numbers nerd.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: A stat nerd. Yeah, okay, you're right.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: The A and M series, it's funny, when I got on this beat, it wasn't long after that they agreed, made the agreement to play all those games in Arlington and Arkansas won the first three, one of them in thrilling fashion. The 2011 game, one of the best games I've covered since I've been on this beat. Because Arkansas trailed at halftime, Bobby Petrino by 18. Bobby Petrino made the move to move their ends out wider and that limited Texas A and M's run game in the second half. And they could not stop Tyler Wilson to Jerrius Wright over the middle. They just couldn't stop it. And that's why you saw Wilson's passing numbers. Jarius Wright had the school record for receiving yards until Kobe Hamilton got it the next year. But it was a phenomenal comeback. And you think, wow, you know, Arkansas's historic edge over A and M, that's just going to keep going.
But they joined the conference and it's, I think Texas A&M's money and whatever has risen to really influence and it will from now on.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: Now with NIL getting Manziel, I feel like is one of the big things that changed A and M, because all of a sudden it became like, okay, this is a program that is going to give you some exposure that I don't know that A and M, I don't know A and M has ever had a player who had more exposure than Johnny Manziel. And it was that coupled with the fact that they were in the SEC for the first year, I think them beating Alabama that first year on the road in Tuscaloos, a huge deal for them. And I don't feel like they've ever been able to totally fully capitalize on where people think they could get to. But boy, they've been awfully good for the most part. And their standard is certainly a lot higher than a lot of other SEC team standards because Kevin Sumlin wasn't bad there. He just wasn't at a championship level and Jimbo Fisher wasn't bad there. It just wasn't at a championship level. And they, I mean, we know that, you know, in both of those cases, they paid a ton of money for those guys to go away.
It's a really interesting series, though, because, you know, I fully expect Arkansas to go in this game Saturday night and make it interesting into the second half. I don't know if they can hang with them for four quarters, but I think that, you know, just because of the way the history of the series has played out over several years and A&M's questions at quarterback, I do feel like Arkansas has a chance to go in there and make it a competitive game. If they don't and it's a repeat of Georgia and it's a repeat of Utah, then I think you got a lot of concerns about Arkansas because then all of a sudden everybody totally forgets about whatever positives came out of the Tulsa game. And, you know, you kind of fall back into the state of the way things were a week ago.
[00:24:03] Speaker B: You've covered the gamut of potential outcomes.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: I do a good job of that.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: I'm not sure how it's going to play out, but I do credit them defensively. The last couple of weeks, they. They really made Georgia go down the field. And Georgia didn't get its second touchdown until. And I still dispute that call. Carlin Jones tipped the ball. It shouldn't have been pass interference on Christian Harrison. Arkansas has got one win in this series since 2012, but how many should they have gotten? 2014, 2015, 2017?
[00:24:34] Speaker A: You can go down the line. I mean, there's a bunch of. How about. How about K.J. jefferson's play in 2022?
[00:24:40] Speaker B: Oh, God, they would have been that. That was. That one. That was painful. And then, you know, I'm thinking, even the Chad Morris years, they played him.
[00:24:48] Speaker A: Even Chad Morris years, they played them. That is a great point. Like, I mean, in both of Chad Morris seasons, they played A and M to within one score. And they had a chance in one of those games to score and tie the game at the end. I think a pass toward o' Grady went in incomplete, and they end up losing by a touchdown. But it's a weird series.
It is. It is probably the most.
It's the weirdest series in terms of. Arkansas plays this team closer than they probably should on average, and somehow they always end up getting the carpet pulled out from underneath them at the end. Even last year is another one.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: People have told me that the tripping call on dan skipper in 2014 was the only tripping call entire year, all of FBS that year, and it was away from the ball. And the Jonathan Williams run on that play, I think went down to like the one or the three yard line and if they pushed that touchdown in
[00:25:42] Speaker A: the game's old start by 21 and then all of a sudden, yeah, it's.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: That was a carpet pulling.
That was a Charlie Brown football situation.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: Real quick, you, you. You gave your grades to Arkansas on our website.
Just kind of quick synopsis on what you saw offensively, defensively.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: Maybe I'm more generous the older I get. I don't know. But I gave them a couple of A's. I thought defensively they really had a good game plan and I just love the fact they played so many guys.
It bodes well for them going down the line. Also, coaching gave them an A. I thought they were. They really schemed up and the players believed that they could go in and dominate and just hold it over another team, and they did that.
Obviously, the red zone issues, you can't give them an A. They just squandered too many chances to get touchdowns. And then special teams. I want to say there was a couple things that happened that made it more B level, frankly. Tulsa's punting was good. That rugby guy took a little time and there was not much room for returns.
And then the Arkansas punting. Gavin Rush is a great, you know, height punter, spiral punter. It doesn't leave much for a return. So looks like Braden McAllister got more time as the kickoff man than Max Gilbert for some reason. But, you know, A's and B's and I don't know if that's going to happen the rest of the year.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see. I do think that we'll get out here on this. I think that what I've seen from the rest of the SEC and this happens a lot of times, you know, you get into the early in the season, people say, well, you got the hardest schedule and this many teams are ranked or whatever.
Not everybody's as good as people think they are. Not everybody's as bad as they think they are. Mississippi State's a perfect example of this. They were picked to finish 15th in the league, and they're certainly much better than that. But you look down the line and you look at Vanderbilt and you say, you know what? If things go right for Arkansas that day, they could beat Vanderbilt. I think you look at the Auburn game the same way. I think you look at the South Carolina game the same way. Missouri maybe, I don't know yet. But I think there's three games now where you look at Vanderbilt, Auburn and South Carolina and say those games feel more obtainable or it feels more obtainable to gain a win in those games than maybe it did two or three weeks ago. Maybe we and every week, maybe that changes our thinking. But Vanderbilt, certainly, they got some issues. South Carolina, they got some real issues. I think there's some questions about whether or not Beamer is even going to be able to make it through the season with them.
Auburn very erratic, to use your word, earlier about Marcel Reed.
So I don't know that the season is just there was this feeling two weeks ago from a lot of people that Arkansas is going to go 2 or 10 or 1 in 11. And I don't know that I believe that I could still see this team. I think it would shock me if they got to a bowl game. But would I be stunned if they got to four wins? I don't think I would be based on what I've seen from some of the other teams on this.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: It's about keeping that belief no matter what happens against A and M. And then Tennessee is going to come in here and they lost an offensive lineman and that really cost them against Texas. So depending on those two games, what their belief is and keeping that thing rolling. But I think you're right, they're going to have to execute better than they did, particularly in the red zone, to win any of those conference games. You pointed out they're just going to have to be better than they were against Tulsa.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I still maintain Utah, Georgia, Texas, lsu, those are the toughest games on Arkansas schedule. So now you're kind of in that valley where you've got some games that not all of them are going to be winnable, but some of them I think are going to be. So that's our take after Arkansas, Tulsa. You can read more on our website@whole hogsports.com we'll be back here in studio tomorrow. Anthony Hicks, the Razorback Grade, will join us. He'll give us his take on the game. Hope to see you then. Have a great Monday.
