Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: You're listening to the Whole Hog sports podcast. And now here's your host, Matt Jones.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Razorbacks overcame a little bit of a tough start to the weekend against UT Arlington ends up winning two out of three. Bubba Carpenter here in studio with me. Today's baseball podcast brought to you by H and R tyranado. They're a third generation family owned business serving northwest Arkansas since 1976. Just like great baseball programs, H and R is built on consistency, trust and doing the right things the right way with no shortcuts and no gimmicks. Arkansas lost 4 to 3 on Friday. They bounce back. They win 9 to nothing on Saturday and 11 to 1 in seven innings yesterday.
Bubba, the pitching is really good for this baseball team. You think about like even yesterday they gave up one run, but it was an unearned run. That's I think four times in six games now where they haven't given up an earned run in a game.
Offense, you know, continues to kind of be hit or miss but I think there were, there were positive signs I guess offensively as the weekend went on. I really thought what Carson Brumbaugh did yesterday with two doubles, a sac fly, you know, even the ground out that he had, everything was hit to the opposite side or up the middle. And I don't think it was just him. I think there was a real emphasis put on that this weekend and it just seemed like the lineup that they rolled out the last couple of days and maybe UT Arlington's pitching has something to do with this, but that there was a lot to be optimistic about
[00:01:28] Speaker A: moving forward, I think. So to your point about the pitching, I'm looking at the stats right now. It's pretty, pretty impressive. Holding opponents to.184 average.
Just guys are just getting it done. They're going out there, what is it? 137 strikeouts, 30 walks.
And the thing is is they've been so good that there's a lot of guys we're not getting to see that, you know, that we want to see get out there and pitch. But they've been so efficient when haven't really needed to.
And on Brumball you can see he kind of changed the swing direction. It looked like yesterday he's been pulling off that slider rolling over to shortstop yesterday. I want to say his first two doubles were both on sliders and then. But one of my favorite swings was his third. Fourth at bat might be his fourth. It's bat got a. No, it was his third at bat, got a first pitch, fastball up above the belt, inner third, and boy, he came unloaded on it and just missed it. If it's down three inches, I mean, he hammers that ball probably, probably off the scoreboard. But, you know, you can see, you know, he got that infield hit the day before, which was huge. And you can, you can see I'm, I'm telling you, he's gonna, he's gonna play baseball for a long time. You know, I said it, I've said it multiple times. I think he's a big league shortstop down the road. You know, I came up with, with Derek Jeter, and I watched him struggle in double A. He got the bat knocked out of his hand and, you know, played okay defense, struggled with defense early on, but he got stronger and, you know, turned out to be a pretty good player. But I'm not comparing Brumbaugh to Jeter yet, but I'm just saying the tools are all there.
And so, yeah, I'm excited.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: I can't remember exactly how he said it, but I asked him yesterday about that infield hit that he got last or in his last at bat Saturday, and, you know, if it helped get the monkey off his back. He said, yeah, it was like the biggest hit I've had in my career or something like that.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: Well, it's frustrating and, you know, I feel sorry for these guys early on. And you and I talked about it last week when you're looking at the scoreboard and you're seeing 150 or 100,
[00:03:33] Speaker B: whatever, he was 091.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, that's even worse because there's the Mendoza Line. I don't know what you call. What's the 100 line when you get
[00:03:43] Speaker B: under that, not playing a lot of
[00:03:45] Speaker A: times, sitting on the soccer season. I don't know.
But no, it happens early on. It can turn into a mental thing, and that's what you got to not let it do. And that's, you know, I do. See, I watch Nate Thompson a lot, and I see Nate pull guys over to the side sometimes after a game, and they'll, they'll talk. And I think that's really cool because a lot of times your hitting coach is psychologists. I mean, really, that's the big part of it.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: A lot.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: You know, some of it's physical, but when it comes to hitting at this level, I mean, a lot of it's right there. It's mental. And so if you're a good hitting coach, you, you, you're kind of coaching from the inside out, understanding what's inside that guy's head. And so you're really more of a psychologist than a hitting coach.
[00:04:28] Speaker B: Isn't it weird? And Brumbaugh hadn't put a lot of great swings on the ball before he got that hit, but.
And so it's a little bit different than Ryder Helfrich, but I'm going to use both of them as an example. Brumbaugh gets the infield hit, and it just seems like that just.
He can take a deep breath, he can exhale and maybe exhale, too. But, you know, with Helfer, he was. He had so many tough luck outs. Like, I think Friday he had a ground ball, 108 out, 105 out. He had some hard hit line outs, some stuff to, you know, to the outfield, flyouts and whatnot.
His first hit of the weekend is probably the ball that he puts in play with his weakest swing. Just like a real soft little line drive up the middle, but it gets through.
And then it's like things really start clicking with him yesterday. Goes 3 for 3. Hitting the ball hard all over the ballpark, but hitting it you know where they ain't. Takes another walk. He's doing really well, by the way, taking his walks this year. That's been something I've been real impressed with with him, but so weird.
Like that one, you know, that. That one little hit that it's like, well, that wasn't.
Not that it's. It wasn't as impressive, I guess, maybe as other swings, but it can really. I don't know, it feels like maybe it can click and.
And make everything seem to work right.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Yeah, baseball's a crazy game. I know a lot of people get so caught up in batting average, and sometimes it drives me crazy when, you know, a guy goes over four, but he hits three balls on the screws, maybe four. And people like, oh, he went over four. He's struggling. No, he's not. Or maybe he gets jammed and flares one to right, rolls over one to the left side, beats him out. He's. He's two for two and always hot at the plate. I mean, there's. And I know the Yankees put a system in a few years ago. I was talking to Jared Wagner about it a couple years ago. It's called Hit, I think Hit FX takes batt. It takes batting average completely out of it. It's all about, you know, pitches getting good pitches to swing at, hitting them hard, and your launch angles factored in. They don't want hard ground balls. They want line drive, fly Balls, it factors into a lot more things than just. It takes batting average basically out of the equation.
And I think they've kind of gotten away from that because I think it kind of started messing with some of the hitters where they're worried so much about exit vlo that they're not, you know, they're striking out and doing some stuff. So. But yeah, batting average, especially early in the season, doesn't tell the whole story, actually. I. I think in the course of a season, a lot of times batting average doesn't tell the full story. But, boy, Ralph Ryder. Alfred's had some. He's had some tough love. He's hit some. He's hit a ton of balls really hard right at him.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: He could easily be hitting.400 right now. It feels like. I mean, with. With the way. And that's always the deal.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: We.
[00:07:17] Speaker B: We talked about this last week. I think he's hitting.294 at the time, and I said that's going to come up because he's just barreling up the ball way too well for him to continue to every at bat have a hard lookout.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: When you think about Friday, Matt, we still hit seven balls over 100 miles an hour. Now. A few of them are off that guy that came in in relief.
And, you know, I feel like people were in panic mode after Friday's game. I'm like, look, that. That dude had a really good start against us. I mean, he hit his spots. He didn't leave very many balls. If you look, I don't know if you're able to see trackman where you're at, but it's. He didn't leave very many balls. Everything he was on the corner, the top, the bottom, the corners.
You could tip your hat sometimes.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: And Scott Kennedy was the umpire, and Scott Kennedy will give you the low strike. And Diegert was taking advantage of that, you know, a lot of times, helping him get ahead of counts.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: And he was giving him a little bit off the plate, too, and he was hitting that spot, and it's tough for a hitter. Now, we did have a few pitches over the middle of the plate that we're late on. Can't be late on those, man.
I think people were in panic mode. I'm like, look, just relax.
This guy dealt today. And you tip your hat to the pitcher.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: Yeah, And I think people were in panic mode, too, because Arkansas State hadn't gone well. I know that.
I think we talked about this last week. I just wonder how much the illness that was going through the Clubhouse because it's not so much like Kozil. He played and he was sick and, you know, he's still got a couple of hits against Kalin Daggert, but you know how this goes. It's just sometimes a difference in a game, not saying it's the only difference, but a difference can be just like the energy and the dugout. And I can only imagine whenever, you know, you got everybody, you know, they're either sick or they're coming off something, you know, they're still on their antibiotics or whatever. Like where the energy and the dugout. It just felt like for a few days last week it was pretty, pretty low. And I don't necessarily think that that was how the team feels about itself. I really think that it might have just been the fact that, you know, I mean, you got flu and strep going through there. And I mean that that crap takes a while to get over.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: It does. And baseball players are creatures of habits. So when you're not feeling good, you kind of get out of your routine. You get out of your routine, it affects your play.
But back on the hitting, you know, we'll probably break the games down in a minute. But the thing that struck me was Yesterday we hit 16 balls over 100 miles an hour.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: There's a bunch of. Yeah.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: So I mean, the threshold, and I feel like almost the threshold for a hard hit. Balls, 95. It feels like we almost need to raise that to 100 because these guys are so good and so strong.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: It's almost like when a guy hits it. 93, 94. Now you say, wow, he missed that. Yeah.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Yeah. It's crazy, but think of six, 16 balls over 100. We had, we had 39 plate appearances. Well, we had 32 official plate appearances. I think we had six walks, one hit batter. So we had 36 official plate appearances. Think about that. Half our plate appearances, we hit the ball over 100 miles an hour.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: That's amazing.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: That's, that's getting it done at the plate. That's going up there and being, being ready. Some of them were first pitch fastballs that we smoked.
Others were balls deep in the count. We waited. We didn't swing at the borderline pitch. We got pitches in our zone and we did, we didn't miss it. It's fun to watch eight strikeouts over
[00:10:36] Speaker B: the last two days and the strikeouts have been an issue for this team. And, and again, I don't know that what UT Arlington was throwing out there the last two days, if it was anything remotely similar, you look at the numbers. And it wasn't similar to Diegert on that first day. But again, you just think about things you can kind of carry with you into future games. And I think the fact that they were cutting down on the strikeouts and just doing, you know, I mean, like, I think about a couple of the bats yesterday where a guy's at second base, nobody out, they advance the base runner with a ground out to the right side. You know, just doing things to kind of continue to move the offense forward. I felt like that got better over the last couple of days.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: Oh, I think so. I love Sousa's a bat where he, you know, he hit a ball to the right side, got it. You know, move the runner over and brumble hit sac fly. I mean that's, you love those type of unselfish team at bats. That's a team at bat and there's a lot of teams you don't see do that. And I think, I think I like watching like watching team execute like that. And it makes you feel good when, when you roll over a ball, you move the runner, next guy hits sac fly. It makes you feel good, you know, because you, you did your job and it paid off. And you know, I talked to Ryder yesterday just about, you know, just about the at bats and everything. And off the record, before we started the interview, I asked him about the, the, you know, the, the pitchers that we saw yesterday. We saw several guys. Their scouting report was 92 to 95 or 93 to 96. So we saw more of kind of SEC caliber fastballs and we were on them.
And you know, when I, when I interview a guy off the record, I don't say what I, what he says, but I think that had, that had something to do with it. I think, I think, you know, you see guys throwing 93 to 96, your eyes light up a little bit and you're a little, you just got a little more er versus that guy throwing 86, 87, sinking at the bottom of the zone, flipping a slider up there. Those guys are frustrating. So I think it's a good sign we started seeing more guys like we're seeing the sec.
Do they have SEC stuff?
[00:12:41] Speaker B: Prob.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: Probably not. But I mean they, they had good stuff. They had good arms.
Good arms. I guess they don't. Not good pitchers. They're just good arms that eventually will be good pitchers. They'll probably end up somewhere else.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: Like Evans yesterday, was he throwing about 94, 96?
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Fastball, yeah.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: You know, good stuff.
[00:12:58] Speaker B: But it's kind of a flat fastball too. And you saw a few times where like, I mean, I think about Kozal and Stewart, they both really hammered one.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And even Damien Reese, you think about the ball he hit the center yesterday. I wanted, I say it was 102, 32, maybe 103, 32 to center. Any other day. That's every other day of the week that's been off the. Halfway up the, you know, the batter's
[00:13:23] Speaker B: eye, he got caught the wind.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Yeah, wind kind of knocked him down off the bat. I thought it was gone, but yeah, he kind of got. He kind of got robbed there. But he's still, still a really good swing. But yeah, I think, I think that's something to be said about, you know, our offense. We, we were seeing more fastballs or just better, I don't know, better caliber pitching, I guess.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: You know, like with Dieger, this happens, I don't know, once, twice, maybe even three times a year where a guy comes in and he just pitches and he makes you look silly.
But it's for the same reasons I feel like you know him from the right side that Colin Fisher's had so much success this year. It's just they're so different than what you're accustomed to, to seeing, you know, in terms of this level of baseball.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:09] Speaker B: If you get that guy who can, you know, he's hitting his spots, he's got more than just a couple of pitches. You know, he can mix and match.
It makes such a huge difference. And again, I think that Colin Fisher is like maybe a little bit more advanced because he's got a little bit better velocity, I think on some of his pitches than Caitlin Dyker.
That's what I was thinking the whole day. It's like Arkansas's getting a taste of what some of these other teams have been seeing on Sunday.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. And thing that makes Collins so dangerous, he has four pitches he can throw for a strike anytime. And I think him and. Him and Ryder work so well together. I actually mentioned it to Ryder yesterday in the post game interview. Is every pitcher that I've talked to mentions Ryder and I think that's. That says a lot. They all, they all give him credit for their success. I think that's awesome.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: They didn't give him a day off. He's caught every game so far. Kleiman and Rutenbar both were hurt. They both were sick last week, you know, when they played the double midweek. And I think that in a normal world or you know, Especially if you don't lose the first game. Ryder probably gets one of those two days off.
He's.
They got to give him a day off. I guess that's my main thought here.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah, probably do. Because it's February. Well, now it's March. But I don't think, I don't think Ryder wants a day off.
I'd like to hear that conversation. Remember, when he goes to it, he
[00:15:33] Speaker B: got hurt in the fall and Wernis told me this, he said, I think kind of in the back of our minds, we thought that was kind of a blessing in disguise because it was going to be hard to take him out of those scrimmages, but we needed to be able to get him out so that we could get our eyes on the other catchers.
Yeah, he doesn't like, like you're going to have to make the decision for him. If you go and ask, hey, you need a day off? No, I'm good. Right.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: No, I agree. I mean, it's going to be tough to take him out of lineup. I mean, he's just, he just wants to play. He's just tough, gritty. I love watching him play.
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[00:16:53] Speaker A: It looked, it looked good on paper.
You know, I think Zach, I think it's. It's going to be hard to get him out of the lineup. He's a veteran. Left handed bat.
Don't know how he hits lefties yet. Kind of. The jury still out. I haven't seen the splits. Too early to really get into splits, but don't know how he handles lefties. But against righties, he's. He's dangerous. I mean, the ball. He Hit the center field through the wind. Yesterday, that went out was pretty impressive.
I just like the way he battles up there. You know, he doesn't ever. You feel like he's always going to give you a quality at bat. He's going to foul off pitches. He's going to swing on his terms, not on the pitcher's terms. And I like that about a hitter.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: He's hit three home runs this year. Two of them have been in long at bats where he's fouled off like, three, four, five pitches, including the one yesterday.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I like that.
So I think he's. But you ask about the lineup, you know, you look at it and you just go, Ruiz, Kojo, Helfrey, Loy, Robinette, Stewart, New Sousa, bro, that's a good lineup.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: A lot of potential.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: That's a really. I mean, that's some athletic dudes that. It's just a good lineup. I. I don't know. I like it. I still like it now. We'll see what happens. I mean, you never know until you really get into sec.
But I like them. And not only that, they all play good defense.
You know, I think. I think. I think Stewart, obviously, we're a little bit better defensively with Zach and right field, but Kahil has gotten better. He took some good routes this weekend to the ball. So, yeah, either way, you're good.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: And there's something to be said for a lineup that it's not clicking for him right out of the gate, and they got to have to work for it. And I don't know, I feel like that can benefit a team down the road when it's. It's not always pretty.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah. You don't want to be butterflies and rainbows in February. I mean, you want to. You want to have to grind out some wins. It's okay to lose a little bit. Sometimes you got to lose in February or early March to win in June.
[00:18:54] Speaker B: It's like last year, what'd they start? What was their record like? I mean, it was an insane record to start the season. Like 20 Ford and 2 or something. I can't remember.
[00:19:04] Speaker A: I want to say I read somewhere it was 24 and 1.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: 24 and 1.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: Now, maybe I'm wrong, but I could have swore. It seems like I've read that.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, but. But point being, they got off to a great start last season, and I don't know, I feel like last year, a lot of. A lot of what you're seeing and again, the strikeouts and things that had to get better But I feel like a lot of the, your word earlier was panic that you've heard the alarm sounding over the last week or so has really kind of been viewing this team through the prism of what you saw last year. And you know, this isn't last year's team. You don't have the Golden Spike. I don't think you have the Golden Spikes award winner on the team.
You know, I don't think this team was ever going to be as good offensively as last season's team was. I mean, you had two first round draft picks, position players last year. When has that ever happened at Arkansas? It's never happened.
I can tell you it's never happened. You know, and you had maybe a third one in Ryder Helfrich, you know, depending on how he goes in the draft this year it's just a different team. And I think that's always. The LSU is going through that a little bit right now too where you know, their offense doesn't look nearly as good as last year's did. Well, that was a national championship team. You know that you're trying to live up to their expectations. That's always the, I don't know, it's any sport. That's always the difficulty when you're following a really great team is the next year you can be good, you just may not be as good as that team. And the expectations are that you're never going to have a dip, I guess.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: Well, to your point, man, last year's team, you knew early on that team was special.
Like every guy they brought in, I mean they were, it was the right guy for that spot.
And it doesn't happen very often because you don't know until you get a guy in here. I mean, you think you know what you're getting or obviously or you wouldn't bring him in. But you don't always know how a guy's going to adapt to SEC baseball. But do you think about, look at, you know, I look at Charles Davilon. He went from a guy that no one really wanted. He sent out hundreds of emails, basically begs someone to take him. He ends up in Florida for a year and then we get him and look at him. First round pick. I mean it's, it's, I mean that's baseball. That's why you gotta love baseball. You can develop, you can be as good as you want to be if you, if you put in the work and no, they just, they, they hit on everyone. So it's, it's hard not to compare them to last year's team. But you can't do that because this is a totally different year. That's why, you know, you know, sometimes we'll go in and we'll play and you know, say, oh well we're, we're such and such record against this team.
Well, that doesn't matter because this is a new year, a new team. You know what I mean?
[00:21:48] Speaker B: It was like Arkansas State last week. I mean if you look at Arkansas's all time record against Arkansas State, you think, and the results, hey, why are they having trouble with this team? Well, that's a different team. You know, they've, they've got a new coach and even UT Arlington, I don't know how they're, how they're going to end up in the wac, but you look at their games this year like they've, they got their heart broke a few times. Yeah. You know, games where they thought they had it or, you know, they just like time ran out on them or whatever.
You know their run differential, they've lost eight games, I think now is it. I think eight games, but their run differential is like less than two runs per game. Which tells you they're playing a lot of close games, you know, and that's even with a couple of blowout losses to Arkansas.
I think that, you know, I think the teams are playing, I don't know if they're going to NCAA tournament teams, but I think that they're more competitive than their record might suggest.
[00:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah, like a lot of times, you know, before game, Phil will be reading off stats about a team. There's such and such, their pitchers have done this or done that and I'll be like, yeah, but they haven't faced a Razorback offense yet. So always view every, to me, every game's different.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: And I don't know, you said that about Murray State last year too. You, I, I give you a lot of credit by the way. You, you were saying that for two days before Gay. He didn't say he was going to throw no hitter if you did. I would have, like, you know, I'd have written a story about it or something.
But like, like you knew that he was going to overwhelm that, that, that lineup. I just, yeah, I've thought about that several times. Every time I think about the no hitter, I think about you calling that for, for two days like, hey, Varkas is going to be fine.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: Yeah, well, the part of that is Gage Wood. I mean, how can you not bet against Gage Wood? You know, so that was an easy. That was an easy one.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Going back to last year's team for a second, something I was thinking while you were talking a minute ago, I talked to Mike Silva last week before the series, and he had been at Nichols, and they had beaten LSU in, in 23, when LSU had skeens and Dylan Cruz and Tommy White and that whole group that won the national championship for the first time under J. Johnson. And he said that the Arkansas team last year, he thought was better top to bottom than that 20, 23 LSU National Championship Group. And as he was telling me about that, I just had this thought. It's like I knew the team was good last year, but it feels like the further we get away from that team. And again, I think some of this is influenced by, you know, some of the offensive struggles we've seen this year. And that tendency, like I said, to compare teams, you just appreciate more what they had last year. Especially when you hear a coach like that give them praise like that.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: Right. I mean, that's. It's good to hear.
But do you think of this year's team, we're not going to hit 127 home runs, I don't think, this year, but we don't have to because look at our pitching. I mean, our pitching's really good.
And, you know, there's guys that aren't even getting out on the field now. Of course, we haven't got into SEC play yet, Matt, but, man, I, I love some of our guys. I thought Brissy looked really good when he came in.
Fastball, 95, 96, but it had, like an extra life, like he was just blowing those guys away.
It. It was 95, 96, but it, it almost looked like 101. It was crazy.
[00:25:16] Speaker B: The steel eaves looked good again. You know, Steel Heaves still has not given up an earned run this year.
He had the. He had. And you have to kind of.
You have to mention what happened against Texas Tech with him, because he came in, I think he hit a guy in the helmet and, you know, walked somebody or give up a hill or something. And. But those weren't his runs. Those were, you know, runners that he had inherited from Cooper Dossett.
Eaves looks really, really good right now. I mean, it's. He had the, he had the hiccups during the preseason where it's like, is this going to be okay? You know, he's leaving the ball up and guys were hammering it. But. But so far, through these outings that he's had, he's looked awfully Good out of the bullpen.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: Yeah. To me, it looks like Steele would be a really uncomfortable at bat for righty. You know, that sinker, slider combination.
You know, even lefty's throwing that slider back, legging that slider in or throwing the two seam away. Plus he throws, he's throwing so much harder now. You know, he's hitting 95, 96.
You know, he's. Yeah, he's looked good.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Let's talk about starting pitching because Gabe Gackel got, I mean, he got hit around the ballpark a little bit on Friday. What have you seen from him and what's got to get better?
[00:26:26] Speaker A: Well, go to the first inning. He falls behind the leadoff man, what two, had to throw a fastball. Guy's a good hitter, too.
What's it, what was his name?
[00:26:36] Speaker B: Not Preston, Not.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah, a little short guy. The list of 5, 8, but he's. I don't think he's 5, 8, but it didn't matter. It's right, it's right here. That's all that counts.
So he hits the ball down the right field line. Next guy hits a. I think I want to say it was a slider, maybe a fastball off the plate, poked it to right, didn't hit it real hard. Base hit. Then the next guy hits a ground ball down the right field line just out of the reach of Robinette.
Kind of unlucky right there.
The base hit the right. Wasn't even a strike, it was off the plate. The second hit, the two hole hitter, you know, I mean, it was, I don't think it was bad. I just think he got off to a couple of, you know, first guy, just 2, 0 fastball. Then Pompey made a good play, though. Remember the play? Pompey made it third, moving to his left through home, got the out at home, kept him from scoring another run, but he gave up two in the first inning. I didn't think he was bad. I just think it's like when he made a mistake, they hit it where we weren't. So, you know, I don't see anything into it. The, the one thing that I worry a little bit about where I don't really worry, I wonder.
So the, the home run, the guy hit to left, what was it, the sixth inning? Yes, it was a fastball kind of up and in and it was 92 miles an hour.
And I don't know that he's got a pitch that's 92.
I don't know if it's, if he's Trying to like run a two seam in or if that's maybe just, I don't know, it was 92 miles an hour though. If it's 95, 96, let's say it's 95. He doesn't get to it. Big difference in 92 and 95. So I just, I kind of wonder about that pitch and I'd love to ask Matt, Matt Hobbs about it. Didn't get a chance to talk to him, but I'm just curious about that.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: Like, he's got really good stuff, but I think that question with him still lingers.
Is he best pitching in a starting role or is he best pitching in relief? Because he's been so doggone good in relief for them the last two years.
I don't know if it's a comfort thing. And I talked to Hobbs about it before the season and he said, I don't think it mattered last year early if he was pitching in out of the bullpen or if he was starting. He just, he just wasn't, you know, he just was missing his spots.
Command wasn't great.
So I don't know, I, you know, if you get Hunter Dietz continue to pitch like he is on Saturday, you know, the question's going to have to, you know, I mean, and maybe Gackel comes out this next week and he puts all this, you know, talk to rest. But you know, I think Dietz, like what, what he's given them on Saturday, that looks like Friday stuff to me. And yeah, you know, I mean, hey, we all know that a rotation, I mean the next rotation that stays the same from the opening weekend to the last weekend will be the first.
It's just not something that happens a whole lot. There's always a little bit of a work in progress. But that's a thought that I've had coming out of this weekend is, you know, Dietz, it looks like Friday stuff to me.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely, it looked like that on Saturday. I mean, with his fastball, I like, I like what he said about using his fastball more.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: You could tell against Xavier he was not happy with his fastball. And I mean, we saw it.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: I don't know the percentages. He went way more to that cutter.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: Well, he had nine strikeouts and all nine of them were on off speed pitches. I think six of them were on cutters, two on change ups and one on a curveball.
But because I asked him afterward the other day, I said, I said you seemed like you weren't pleased with your fastball last week and he Said that that's accurate.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: So I talk about hitters all the time. If you're not ready for the fastball, you're not ready to hit.
And I think with pitchers, if you're not throwing your fastball, if you're not commanding your fastball or just getting it around the plate, obviously your other offs, your pitches aren't going to be effective. But when your fastball's on, that sets up all your other pitches. Like if his fastball's on, that makes his cutter so much better. Makes that curveball so much better.
Yeah, I don't know, I just thought he looked awesome.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: I did too. I mean, I thought it was. It's good to see for him just being able to have the success that everybody, number one, expects you to have, but that you yourself know you're capable of doing it. It just has taken a little while for that to, you know, manifest itself in a game.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: Just think though, he's still innings wise, he's still a freshman, basically.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: I mean, he almost doubled his innings Saturday. Like he had thrown seven and two third career innings coming into the game. He threw seven on Saturday.
It's amazing.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that is. That's crazy.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: He said he had a great quote afterward. He said that after Oklahoma State because, you know, coming into the year, he throwing one and two thirds or tcu. I'm sorry, TCU down in Arlington. He said that Ryder Helfer told him, well, you know, you doubled your innings tonight and then he threw four against Xavier while you doubled your innings again. And he said, I don't know how I'm going to double what I did today.
Seven innings.
Didn't you have it? You had a teammate go like 10 innings or 11 innings in a game with it. Was it Phillips? Yeah. Stidham at A and M. Yeah, at
[00:31:45] Speaker A: a and m. A 17 inning game. 16 inning. 17, something like that. A lot, it was a lot of innings. Yeah, he went, he went like.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: And he was our, he was our
[00:31:53] Speaker A: closer, but he was, he was a submarine guy. Rubber arm, kind of like steel eves. He could, he could throw, he could throw every day. And a lot of times he did. He would close out three games on a weekend.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: Or Dominic Takalini, he had like a 10 inning shutout against Kentucky. That was a real impressive game.
I don't think anybody's throwing 14 innings, especially not when you throw 95.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:15] Speaker B: 96 the way that Dietz does. But boy, I'll tell you, I'm real impressed with him. And then, you know, to your point, about it was kind of like the inverse of that Xavier start for Colin Fisher. Yesterday he said that he didn't feel like he had his off speed stuff early in the game, was having to really rely on his fastball. And he said after about the third inning and you could actually kind of, you could sense this. I felt like in the ballpark, it felt like about the fourth inning, okay, he started to kind of get into that cruise control mode and he ends up pitching well. No earned runs, five hits, one walk, seven strikeouts. Dave Van Horn said it wasn't great. He said, we've seen great with him, but it was good.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: It's pretty impressive. You look at his line and say, okay, well, he wasn't as good as he normally is. But I mean, I mean, he was still really good. I thought, I like the stats. You texted me some stats that were pretty incredible.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: What I say, oh, I said through three starts, he hasn't allowed an earned run.
His WHIP is.053, which is outstanding. And 13 and a third. I'm sorry, 13.1 strikeouts per nine innings is what he's doing.
Corey Stewart, who runs the Stu Hog YouTube account, he said something yesterday, I think Fisher, it's like maybe third or fourth most innings without an earned run to start a season that Arkansas had during the Van Horn era and most of the others were during the dead bat era. That 2011, 2013, 2014 range when scoring was way down across college baseball. So I think that, that, you know, what he's doing is really, really impressive.
[00:33:56] Speaker A: No, it is.
It's so nice to have him on a Sunday, you know, and just knowing what you're going to get out of your Sunday guy.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: Because, like, I mean, Sunday. I really agree with Van Horn because he said this a lot of times, like, Sunday's the most important game of the series.
Doesn't matter if you're 201102, you're either trying to sweep, you're trying to win the series, you're trying to keep from getting swept. And that's a, like, all three of those scenarios are really big to a baseball team.
[00:34:25] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. So are you thinking rotation wise?
Well, let's don't even go there. It's early.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you got to get through. You got to get through Stetson this next week, maybe even Mississippi State, it feels like, I don't think that they ever want to change up the rotation unless something's going awfully bad. Until guys get to that, like that pitch limit.
I don't know. Pitch limit. When they get their pitch, you know, they get their pitch count up to, like, where they want it to be, 100 something, you know, whatever that number is. Because I think right now there's. And you can explain this better than I can, but there's still that rhythm of, you know, for a lot of pitchers, hey, you know, try to stay on a full week's rest.
Let's incrementally take the pitch count up by 10 more, and then, you know, you get to a certain point where, you know, the pitch count's not going to rise a whole lot. But, I mean, that's still, I think, part of the consideration. I think it gets lost a little bit this time of year.
[00:35:29] Speaker A: I think so. And when I look at Gackel, I think, well, you know, he really didn't throw much in the fall. They really kind of. They kind of did the Hagen Smith thing where they pretty much shut him down in the fall. So, you know, he's still trying to get in his groove, I think. And so I still, I'm still in on Gackel.
I. I like it. I like the rotation. I like the fact that we got a lot of ways to get 27 outs. That's what I like.
[00:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. And like, the fight to get on the mound right now is. Is real. So it's two straight weekends where there's only been three relievers used. And, you know, I mean, the like, like with Fisher, he's going so long that there's really, like, Sundays, a lot of times where you think you're going to need a deep bullpen, and that's where Arkansas has really not needed it at all.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, it's crazy.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: At least the last two weeks, you
[00:36:20] Speaker A: look at Sunday, Sundays tend to get crazy now. We'll see when SEC play rolls around.
But, yeah, so far it's been a lot of guys sitting on there, not getting in a game.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: Nolan Souza, I wanted to ask you about his defense because he played third at least twice this last week. Maybe three times. I think three times. He played third base three times, played second base once. We talked about a little bit what you saw against Arkansas State, but now that you've had more of a bigger data set to analyze, what have you seen from him?
[00:36:50] Speaker A: No, I like him. I like how athletic he is and how quick he is.
I saw something. I saw something yesterday I haven't seen. He went to his left, and he went so far to his left that he was able to underhand the ball to Kozil at second For a force. I don't think I've ever seen a third baseman go that far.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: Noticed it, too.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: I mean, he's so quick, and when he. When he dives our ball and he's up off the ground so quick and, you know, his arm's still not where. You know, I still haven't seen him cut one loose, but he.
[00:37:19] Speaker B: I thought he cut one loose yesterday, though, on the play where he dove to his right.
Now, it wasn't an accurate throw, but I thought that that was a good sign for him. Remember, he got up and I mean, he really let that thing go. A lot different than what we've seen on his other throws. From third?
[00:37:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. I just don't think I know what kind of armies he had before surgery. I don't know if it's. I don't know if he completely trusts it yet, but as far as the way he moves to the ball, creates a good hop.
You know, the double play they turned yesterday, a really good feed to Brumball. I mean, the. The feed was perfect, which is super important. It's always the first throw dictates whether or not you're going to turn two or not. And I don't know, there's just so many things. But I like how. I just like how his quickness now. I mean, Pompey's. Pompey plays great defense, too, you know, here. And, And I do want to say something about Pompey. Even though he wasn't hitting, he never took his bat in the field.
I mean, he. He went out there and played really good defense, you know, so, you know, but I mean, it's all about competition and who's getting it done.
[00:38:26] Speaker B: There's still a role for him on this team.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I mean, it's early.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: I mean, I think he. I think it's hard to hit, you know, a whole lot worse than what he's done. I mean, he struck out like half as. Literally half as a bats, 34 at bats. He's got 17 strikeouts.
He plays good defense.
There's value in that, you know, eighth, ninth inning, maybe you got a lead, you're trying to hold it.
You know, I think, and I say this, I feel like a broken record when I say this, but I just think a lot of the success they've had over these several years, you know, where they averaged 20 SEC wins and won the division, a lot won the conference some. It's because of the depth that they've had on their bench. I go Back to like 2023. And, you know, think about Reese Robinette and the home run he hit against lsu, or Hunter Grimes and the play that he makes in left field to throw out a guy from. Was it Texas A and M or Georgia at home plate in the seventh inning and preserve a tie game. I mean, like, there's still.
I feel like there are players on the bench who maybe haven't heard from them a whole lot yet this year or at all.
But I think that, you know, there might be a play out there where you look back at the end of the season, say, hey, that was really crucial to wherever it was that you got.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And think about it. Today he's going to get his eyes checked.
It could be something.
[00:39:39] Speaker B: Okay, so this is funny.
I was talking to somebody in the press box about this the other day, where Matt Goodheart got his eyes checked after a bad start. Got contacts, all sec. Yeah, the Heavo aloy. Bad start, gets his eyes checked all sec. If TJ Pompey comes back and he becomes an all SEC player because he got his eyes checked and he gets contacts, like, isn't that optometrist some sort of miracle worker?
[00:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you got to see. You think about it. When you ask a hitter, how'd you feel at the plate today? He doesn't say, oh, oh, boy, I was really turning the barrel good. You know, my backside felt good. You know, I was getting my foot down. They don't say that. They said, what do they say? They say, I'm seeing the ball great. When you're hitting well, you're seeing the ball great.
And if you're not seeing it, it's got to be hard to hit. I played with a guy, played. What was he, like, four years in aaa? BP was unbelievable. He was fast. He was a center fielder. Play center place, played left, play all over. His name is Rich Barnwell. Played. Played at Pepperdine. Anyway, short, couldn't hit in a game. They finally.
And they put us through eye tests all the time, but he had one eye. His eyesight was good, actually, but he had one eye stronger than the other, so it threw off his depth perception. Got his eyes checked, got contacts, started raking, absolutely raking. And a few days later, he tears his acl. Oh, no. Going for a ball in the left center. And now he's an attorney in California.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: That's terrible.
[00:41:04] Speaker A: I worked out okay for him.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: It works out fine. It almost feels like maybe they ought to make the eye check like. Like when you get your physical. Okay, now you got that done let's come over here and check your eyes.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I see younger kids a lot that, that I'll hit with them. And you see things that kind of lead you to believe that they're not seeing the ball. There's. There's little ways you can test eyesight to see, and there's little drills that I can do. And sometimes you see a kid that, you know, he's just not seeing the ball. Now. Sometimes they just don't know how to focus on the ball, but sometimes it's something, you know, more serious than that. And I'll.
[00:41:37] Speaker B: I'll.
[00:41:37] Speaker A: I'll say, hey, you might want to go get his eyes checked.
[00:41:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it's. It makes a big difference.
Reminder. Our baseball podcast is sponsored by H and R Tire and Auto. Local shop, been family owned for three generations. They've built a reputation on taking care of customers the right way. That kind of longevity doesn't happen by accident. Cam Kozal hit his sixth home run yesterday. Bubba and I looked this up. It was his 11th game this year. He hit a sixth home run last year. It took until his 27th game for him to hit his sixth home run. If you look at it in terms of at bats this year, it was his 40th at bat. Last year, it was his 98th at bat when he hit number six.
The power just seems. He had power last year. He hit 15 home runs, 18 doubles. It just seems like it's a lot more consistent and a lot earlier this year than what we saw a year ago.
[00:42:27] Speaker A: Okay, so you're Rain Man. You're good with numbers. What pace does that put him on for this year?
[00:42:33] Speaker B: I mean, it would depend on how many games they played. But, you know, I mean, if they played as many games as they played last year, you'd be looking at a high 20 home run total.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Good job.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: I mean, I don't know. I'm not good at math, but I'd
[00:42:47] Speaker B: hate to say like, 32, 33. That'd be like Charlie Condon. I know. Caglion territory. I don't necessarily put that kind of expectation on him.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: It's funny when early on you start projecting things, man, he's on pace to hit 75 home runs and, you know, 200, 200 RBIs.
Talking about guys in the big leagues. But the thing I notice about Cam is, I mean, he's, he's, he's stronger, obviously, that, you know, the maturity makes you stronger. But I think he's in such a good place mentally and I watch it bats. And you've heard me say it a lot.
You can tell a lot about a guy.
Just his demeanor when he steps up to play. Like, look. Watch his face. Watch his. A lot of times, your. Your facial expressions, like, guys on the mound. There.
[00:43:33] Speaker B: There.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: There was a. The mound yesterday for UTA that just did not want to be there. I mean, his facial expression, he was like, get me out of here. And it showed. But you watch Kam at the plate. I go back to the home run he hit on the 02 pitch against Texas Tech.
He's just calm as he could be. And I. I think that's a lot of it, or. I know that's a lot of it. It's just his. His mental.
Where he's at mentally, where he's able to just slow everything down. And that's such a fun place to be as a hitter.
[00:44:04] Speaker B: It's all the Gregorian chant that he listens to before games had.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: The whole team ought to listen to that.
[00:44:09] Speaker B: Yeah. You ever listen to that?
[00:44:10] Speaker A: I have no idea what it is. Well, I know what it is, but. No, I've never. Maybe I'll try it. Have you?
[00:44:15] Speaker B: I've heard. So. This is weird. I've only heard it because I had a professor in college who. He did this on the side, and so he made it part of his. I guess his. What do you even call that? His. What he taught. I can't think of the word. My wife would be so mad at me right now because she's curriculum.
My wife's in that field. But anyway, he made a part of it. So we'd listen to Gregorian chant as part of his class a couple of times.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: Did it make you better?
[00:44:44] Speaker B: No, it made me want to go to sleep, honestly.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: But, you know, it's good. He's got.
What I say about baseball players or creatures, a habit. That's his routine. And you find something that works, you stay with it.
I don't know what he writes in his journal. I've never even asked him.
It's none of my business. But, you know, just the fact that he keeps a journal. He writes stuff down. I have a 14U team, and, you know, I have them write stuff down, you know, at the end of the game. Write down things, you know, good things. Write down something that you struggle with. Maybe you missed a pitch you should have crushed or, you know, maybe you didn't make a play that you should have. You feel like you should have made. You know, I think it's good for people to write stuff down. I'm One of those. If I, if I see it, I remember. You can tell it to me all day. If I see it, I'll remember it. If I write it down, I won't forget it.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: We should start doing that after games. Like, you could like write, you could analyze how you did on a game broadcast.
[00:45:44] Speaker A: I got Phil for that. Phil reminds me how I did. So I don't think I need to write it down.
[00:45:48] Speaker B: I could write down. I should have, I should have finished 15 minutes earlier.
[00:45:53] Speaker A: I will tell you, I lost focus a couple times yesterday. You're focused on my son's team was playing and so there were a few times. There was one time, you know, it was kind of a crucial moment on the field and my son's hitting and so, yeah, I'm trying to go back and forth. It's kind of like Brett Dolan did the other night. His daughter hit a home run and he called the, he called her home run on the air. And I thought it was freaking awesome.
[00:46:15] Speaker B: So that's pretty cool.
Yeah. How about Chuck Barrett, by the way, gutting that thing out yesterday? He got back from Gainesville, I think at like 2:30. Yeah, it was at the ballpark by. I don't know what time. But like, they're out there early getting those interviews done, trying to get on the, on the air early yesterday morning. I told somebody yesterday it was an 11 o' clock start time. Game was over at 1:20 or 1:15 or something like that because of the run roll. I said I could get used to this. In at 11, out at 1:30 thing on a Sunday.
[00:46:44] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it was huge. I know Chuck was really excited. I, I had a rally donut that last inning, so we get a couple more runs.
[00:46:52] Speaker B: So you need to get home and get some sleep.
[00:46:53] Speaker A: Yeah, Phil brought us some donuts in the booth, so I appreciated that. But yeah, I know he was really happy about the run. Rules to get home. Yeah.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: How about Phil getting to call a women's basketball win yesterday?
[00:47:03] Speaker A: Yeah, big win. Yeah, he texted me.
[00:47:05] Speaker B: So they won by 29. They hadn't won an SEC.
It snapped a 16 game losing streak. It's kind of like they just took it out on that team that they were playing.
[00:47:15] Speaker A: See, that's good though, Senior night. I mean, that's a good win. That's a good feeling, you know, so.
[00:47:21] Speaker B: And like, and their seniors were the ones who had the biggest, like the. Lee Mayberry's daughter, I think she scored 25 on her senior night. So that was a really neat deal for Them happy for Phil. Yeah, that's hard.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: Happy for Phil, but more happy for the team. And that's just hard.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: Like, I mean, if you're the play by play guy, heck, even like our beat reporter who covers women's basketball, it's hard going through a season like that and just trying to stay positive and upbeat and, you know, I mean, especially. And I would think that it's especially that way if you're a player, you know, it's like it'd be easy to just, okay, this is the last game we're going to.
You know, we're just going to. We're going to be out of here in a week anyway. But they still showed a lot of fight. I was, I was really impressed by that.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: You know, I've, I've complimented Chuck and Quinn, like during the Chad Morris years, and there's been some lean years in football, how they stay so positive on the, on the air. It's got to, it's got to be tough. I've been spoiled. I started doing razorback baseball in 2018 and you're in the golden. We've had nothing but studs. And I mean, it's been so much fun. I mean, my job's so easy because I love the guys, I love the coaches and it's, you know, love the fans, love the stadium. It's. It's awesome. So I've, I've had it easy. I can't imagine, like the Missouri playback play guy last year or the color guy. Just, I mean, can you imagine how
[00:48:36] Speaker B: euphoric he must have been though, when they went to College Station and swept?
[00:48:39] Speaker A: How about that? That, that still gets me out of everything that happened last year.
[00:48:43] Speaker B: Missouri's record this year. Yeah, they're pretty good. I mean, at least, at least based on the teams they played. I don't know how they're going to do in the sec, but they've gotten off to a better start this year.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: Yeah, but that going in and sweeping A and M there, that their place is crazy to me.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: Hey, real quick, ORU comes in tomorrow night. They got three former Razorbacks on that roster. There's Will Edmondson, who was an outfielder here in 2024. A couple of pitchers, Luke Williams and Jackson Farrell, who I think might throw a little bit in the game. They're both coming off injuries.
They never pitched here, but they were on the team. And they redshirted.
They're five and six.
Their midweeks have not gone well. They got beat by Missouri State 131 at Tulsa. Then they got beat by Missouri State 11 to nothing in Springfield last week.
So I don't know what to expect out of this ORU team. I don't think it's.
It doesn't look like the same ORU team that came in here, obviously, the year they won the World Series or in those years that were around that. But, you know, I mean, it's a good program, but it does seem like they're down a little bit right now.
[00:49:53] Speaker A: But it seems like when they come to Bomb Walker, they always seem to play better.
[00:49:57] Speaker B: They got a lot of kids from northwest Arkansas, it feels like.
[00:49:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:00] Speaker B: And then, you know, like I said, you got the three guys who. They were Razorbacks and they're not Razorbacks anymore. Remember when Hunter Wilson came back with them?
[00:50:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: Hit a home run and. I don't know, it just seems like it brings the best out of those guys when they come back here.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: I think it does. Especially if they have a history here. And even if not, they just always seem to play well when they come here. Somebody coming to Bomb Walker gets the juices flowing for that opposing team. Everyone wants to beat us. There's kind of a bullseye on our back.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: I'm interested to see how Arkansas is going to pitch this. We don't know as we're talking right now what the pitching plan is going to be, but again, there's so many pitchers who need work and there's only one midweek game to get them work this week. It's going to be interesting to see how do they.
How do they play this.
[00:50:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd be interested to see if Peyton Lee gets the start or maybe decramer. Maybe they start decramer and give him two or three innings or maybe just let him run with it. I don't know.
I like DeKramer on the weekend. I think he's got weekend stuff, but it'll be interesting to see. I still. I'm still in on Peyton Lee. I still like him a lot. Didn't have the best outing last week, but. But I still like him.
[00:51:05] Speaker B: That's a good lineup. He was going up against Marcus. I'll say they put it on UAPB this weekend. Not a surprise, but they continued to play well. They're a team. Xavier's a team, too. They won two of three at Cal State Fullerton this weekend.
All these teams. I think they're very interesting to watch as they go along this season and just see how they do in their conferences. Once again, our baseball podcast brought to you by H and R Attire and auto. Proudly Family owned since 1976.
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