[00:00:00] Speaker A: You're listening to the Whole Hog Sports podcast. And now, here's your host, Matt Jones.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Happy Thursday, everyone. This is Ethan Westerman filling in as host. Don't worry, Matt Jones is here. He's just not here in person.
Got a little bit of the, I guess, some of the sickness going around, and so he's home, unfortunately, I think with sick kid. But Matt's on the line with us today. We are only a week away from Arkansas baseball. Starting tomorrow, we'll mark one week from the season opener down there in Arlington.
Matt, I guess just to start us off, you know, what's kind of the feeling around Fayetteville right now with baseball about to. About to start?
[00:00:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not sick. It's my son who's sick, by the way. I'm. I'm fine.
You know, to me, as far as I'm concerned, baseball starts tomorrow because we're going to have open scrimmages at Bomb Walker Stadium all weekend. Weather's supposed to be really good, probably in the upper 60s, maybe even get into the 70s one day this weekend, get all the snow that's out in my yard finally melted off for good.
You know, it's. I'm looking forward to it. It's. You get Friday, Saturday, Sunday you talked about. We're a week away. Tomorrow, a week from tonight is when Norm de Bryan gets inducted into the College Baseball hall of Fame up in Kansas City. And I'll be up there for that.
And then I'll make the, you know, the quick turnaround and get down to Arlington by the next night to watch him play Oklahoma State.
The feeling around town is I think people are excited about Razorback baseball.
People are always excited about Razorback baseball. They love that Dave Van Horn has built a winning program that they can rely on every year to give them a lot of, you know, something to be proud of. And the thing about baseball, you heard Norm De Bryan say this yesterday, referencing something that Ken Hatfield told him. You know, he was talking about losing to Texas, and he saw Ken Hatfield in the hallway the next day. He said, hey, the great thing about losing to Texas last night was that you get to play him today. If we lose to Texas, we don't get to see him again until next year. And there's something great about baseball where, you know, you play four or five games a week and you get a chance to, you know, you got a bad night, you get a chance to redeem yourself tomorrow night or in two nights, and, you know, they win a lot of games. They lose A lot of games, too, but they certainly win a whole lot more than they lose. And, you know, the feeling around town that I get is that, you know, especially after that basketball loss last weekend, I think people are really ready to see this baseball team come out and see if they're as good as people think they are. They were picked to finish fourth today in the sec.
They're fifth in the preseason coaches poll. They got players on All America teams and MLB draft boards and all conference teams. They had four players on the all conference team today. Ryder Helfrich and Cam Kozel, Gabe Gackel and Kahi Olloy. So I think there's a lot of excitement about it.
I know I'm looking forward to seeing it get going.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah, you mentioned, you know, the scrimmages that are. That are coming up this weekend. You've already been to some open scrimmages. I know that the weather shut down a lot of what they were able to do, you know, to the public recently. But you've been to some. I guess from what you have seen, what stood out, you know, what's going on kind of caught your eye out there.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: Well, I've been to one. They had one open scrimmage before all the weather got bad.
The first scrimmage they had this preseason on January 16, it was open and then it got cold and then it got nasty and they had to go inside. And so they've had eight scrimmages to this point. Seven of them have been indoors. And I was talking to somebody yesterday who, you know, we're just talking about the team and how do you feel about the team? I said, I don't really know how to feel about the team right now, you know, because a lot of times you go into these opening weekends and you have seen them play, you know, for three or four weeks, most of their scrimmages or three weeks up until this year when they change the rule. And you kind of have a feeling like, hey, yeah, that guy's going to. He's going to hit well or this guy's going to be pitching well, because you've seen it for. For two or three weeks.
And I just don't really have a great frame of reference for that other than, you know, what we're told by the coaches who's pitching well, who's hitting well. You heard Dave An Horn talk at the Swatters Club earlier this week that Cole Gibler had a really good scrimmage last week. He said he struck out eight and four innings.
Hunter Dietz by all accounts, has been really good this preseason when he's gotten his starts.
You know, from a hitting standpoint, Reese Robinette is apparently hitting it really well. I think Cam Kozol has gotten his swing back a little bit this preseason.
You know, we hear that Cam Kozal might be a little bit ahead of Nolan Souzer right now at second base, that, you know, they're still waiting for Nolan Souza's arm to come back. Well, you know, my thought is, well, what does that mean to come back? Is it arm strength? Is it accuracy? These are all the little things you can see when there's open scrimmages. And so, you know, those are just some of the things that I'm looking for this weekend and wanting to see.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: You mentioned second base, but I guess just kind of at large. What are some of the biggest roster questions you, you know, right now, where we stand right now, a week before the season?
[00:05:10] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I think the two corner outfield spots are the two that are most intriguing. And I think Kahiwa Louie is going to be their right fielder on opening day.
You know, if nothing else, it's, you know, he's earned that by the way he played last year in that DH role. But I think Zach Stewart's going to push him for some playing time in right field. In left field, though, I think that's the most intriguing one. And it's basically between Damian Ruiz, who is a senior, a transfer from Lamar. He was the Southland Conference hitter of the year last season. And before you sneeze at that, the Southland Conference usually has some pretty good baseball.
And then you've got a freshman named Christian Turner from Louisiana, the same high school that Peyton Stovall went to.
And, you know, we saw him in the fall, where there were some days where he didn't look that great, and then there were some days where he just really, you know, set things on fire. I think about that open scrimmage night that they had in, I think it was in September, their, what they call their fall classic. He went 3 for 3. I think he might have drawn a walk. He's really fast, and every time you talk to the coaches about him, they're like, he's the fastest guy on the team. And apparently he's hitting the ball pretty well right now. And I don't know that, you know, I don't know that Ruiz is hitting it quite like maybe he did this time last year, or I should say maybe last season when he was playing at Lamar. So, you know, we'll See, we'll see what happens there at left. The thing you always see from Dave Van Horn in his, you know, on his teams is that everybody's going to get a chance to play early because I think the thought there is that just because you're doing it in scrimmaging doesn't mean you're going to do it when the lights come on. And then maybe, you know, on the flip side, there are some guys who, they may not be great practice or scrimmage players, but, man, when you put them in a game, they really figure out how to, you know, get it going. And so I think everybody gets a chance early in the season. They're going to play four games in Arlington. I suspect you're going to see a lot of players get a chance to get on the field in some capacity down there. They come back, they play Xavier, they play UT Arlington, they play Stetson, those first. And they've got some midweek games in there too, you know, up until, really, until SEC play starts, you know, and you've got to lower the roster down a little bit.
I think a lot of guys get chances just to see how they can do so. You know, just because we say that somebody's got something sewn up right now doesn't necessarily mean that that's going to be that way in, in two or three weeks.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: I know we'll get more into it obviously next week as we get closer to it. But I do want to ask, you know, going down to Arlington, this is obviously not the first time they've done this. And I know that there's the, the, you know, kind of the, the obvious that the weather sometimes up here is, is not the best. It's probably better down there almost every year whenever you're going to start your season. But other than that, you know, why, why do they, why do they keep going down there?
[00:08:17] Speaker A: It's the weather. I mean, it's, it's the fact that you can go inside. Well, let me go back. First off, it's just a really well run event. You know, I've been to some of these, like the Astros, they have one at.
I can't remember what they call their stadium anymore. I still call it Minute Maid.
But in Houston they have one early in the season that was kind of like the premier early season event for a long time.
It's not nearly. It's not run nearly as well as the one in Arlington. One of the really cool things about the way it's set up there at Arlington is that the teams Stay next door at the hotel to the Rangers ballpark. And so they're just kind of always on site as opposed to when you're in downtown Houston, you know, you might be staying at a hotel four, five, six blocks away. And it's just, it feels a little bit more detached.
So that's number one. That's, that's, that makes this unique there in Arlington, you know. But like I said, I just think the, the people with the Rangers, Rev Entertainment, which is their, the Rangers entertainment arm that schedules events at that ballpark for, you know, non Ranger games. I think they do a really good job.
And you know, Arkansas loves going down there.
Number one, because it gives them four games now used to be three, it's going to be four probably most years. Moving forward gives them four games where they don't have to worry about the weather.
Since 2021, their early season, their big marquee early season trip has been to Arlington every year but one. Ethan. The one time it wasn't, they went to Round Rock, Texas and nearly froze the rear ends off. It was miserable weather outdoors at the AAA ballpark there outside of Austin. And so you don't have to deal with that, you know, I mean, now there have been some years they've gone down there and there have been some ice on the roads trying to get to Arlington, but once you get there, you know, it's 72 degrees and it's perfect baseball weather inside. And so I think that's a big deal. They love going down there and showing out to their fans in the Metroplex. Every year that I've gone down there and I've been there for every year but the first one when I couldn't get there because of the roads.
They have had huge crowds for their games, like when they play TCU on Saturday night because TCU is local.
TCU will probably have four to six, 7,000 people come over in purple. Arkansas will probably have somewhere around 12 to 15,000 people there to support them. It's an electric environment.
You got 19, 20, maybe 21,000 people in the ballpark watching a college baseball game on Valentine's Day, the second night of the season. That's really cool. And I think it gives them a chance to show out in front of those fans in Dallas. The Rangers, they want Arkansas there every year because, you know, they're the ones who bring the fans for the most part. I mean, they've. I don't know that LSU has ever gone over there for anything before. I don't know that Texas has Been there. Well, actually Texas has been there because Arkansas has played them there and Texas doesn't draw nearly as well as Arkansas does.
And you know, that's, that's the big draw for the on the Rangers part is Arkansas fans, they come and they sell tickets and they make this thing a really big deal when they get down to Arlington. And I know it's going to be that way this weekend too.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I just won't forget a couple years back how cool it was the game that Hagan pitch, Hayden Hagan Smith pitched against Oregon State.
It just had number one. He's a, was a big time big league prospect. But just playing in that ballpark too, it just had that big league feel, which I think is something that, you know, especially right off the bat to start the season is pretty cool.
[00:12:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I know it is. And that wasn't even the best game that weekend. Now Arkansas lost the best game of the weekend. They played Oklahoma State and It was a 2 to 1 game and I think it went 14 innings and Oklahoma State walked them off on a squeeze play at like little past midnight.
That, that was crazy. But yeah, it's, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun being in that ballpark. And you would think with a ballpark that seats 35, 40,000, whatever that place seats that when you've only, you know, only got 15, 20,000 people in the ballpark, it might feel empty. It doesn't. It something about the way they've got that ballpark configured.
It feels really full when you've got all those people in there for these college games.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, going down there next week. Is there like a, you know, obviously you'll be watching every Arkansas game. Is there another team or two down there that you're really interested just to kind of be around? I know that there's. Oklahoma will be there. Right. Which is.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So the first week and it's set up differently depending on the weekend. Arlington, they host three or four weekends now of college baseball to start the year. Some weekends there's six teams that come in. Some weekends there are four teams that come in. So this one is going to be one of those six team weekends.
OU and Vanderbilt are both going to be there too. So you're going to have three SEC teams and you're going to have three Big 12 teams there. None of the SEC teams are going to play each other. It's just going to be SEC versus Big 12 every night. And that in itself, I mean, the Big 12 that's a good baseball conference.
That in itself is kind of fun. You know, it feels almost kind of like the, the sec ACC basketball challenge just in one weekend where you've got three teams or six teams that are, are pitted against each other. Yeah, I mean I, I want to see all these teams. TCU is supposed to have a really good team this year. The ranked 10th in the preseason poll. I'm always interested in Oklahoma State for, you know, if nothing else, just because of how regional they are. And that's a team that Arkansas gets matched up with a lot due to proximity in the regional round.
So I'm always interested to see them.
Vanderbilt, Arkansas will not play them this year in the regular season, but you know, certainly that's a good baseball program.
And then you got ou, they're going to be here at Baum in May. And so there's, there's also a couple of Arkansas connections on that OU team that I'm interested in watching. One of the things I love is, I think it was, yeah, it was the Oklahoma State 14 inning game that I referenced earlier.
The game that preceded that, that night was Texas and Missouri.
And this was before Texas joined the sec. I think this was their last year in the Big 12.
And Dylan Leach, who was a catcher for Arkansas was at Missouri and he hit a single or a double and he walked off Texas in the ninth inning with like 10,000 Razorback fans in the park waiting for their game to start because that game had run a little long. And so you got this former Razorback who just walked off Texas. You can imagine what that scene was like that. And so you can you catch those a little bit in this, in this setting in Arlington, you know, that I love. And then to make that story just, you know, put a bow on it.
Dylan was on the 2022 team that went to the College World Series and they handed him his College World Series ring on the field after he had celebrated with his Missouri teammates. They had actually brought it. They had one for him and a pitcher who had gone to Texas. They brought the rings with them down to Arlington to be able to give it to them in person. And so Dylan Leach had had his uniform ripped off and he had his College World Series ring given to him after he had all the Razorback fans give him a hog call after Missouri had beaten Texas. That was, that's one of those. You had to be there to really experience it and, and appreciate it. But that was a cool moment.
[00:15:47] Speaker B: Obviously Arkansas is going to have bad blood with Texas and everything But I think there's. If there's one sport that I feel like you can get Hog fans to cheer for Missouri, I. Especially given those circumstances, it would probably be Missouri baseball. It doesn't really feel too.
Too much like a threat usually.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: No. Which is interesting because they play every year, but, you know, again, a lot of ties between Arkansas and Missouri, too.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
Dave Van Horn had his Swatters Club meeting earlier this week. Anything interesting come from that?
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Oh, I think those are always interesting. I mean, it's 45 minutes of Dave Van Horn unfiltered, you know, where he just kind of gets to tell you about the team.
It'll be more, you know, it's. It's more interesting, I think, once the season begins. And he can really give you a lot of insights into what he's seeing, you know, as they're playing games. But yeah, you know, like, I mean, the left field thing, I thought that was, you know, real insightful what he had to say about Christian Turner and Damien Ruiz there, the second base talk, Kozil and Nolan Souza. You know, one of the big takeaways that I thought I had from the other day was how well Cooper Dosset is throwing right now and how they think that, you know, they didn't use the word closer with him. And I don't know that this team's going to have one closer. We'll see. You know, maybe somebody just takes that.
That role and runs with it, but from all indications, he's throwing really well right now. And, you know, he's somebody that I think people might forget about a little bit because he didn't pitch a ton before he had his elbow injury. He pitched some, but he didn't pitch a whole lot. And then he has the elbow injury. He sits out all last year and I sat right. Sometimes I like to sit on the first row, directly behind home plate at these scrimmages and practices because I just feel like you can see a lot right there.
And the other thing you can do is you can kind of hear some stuff. And like, there's certain guys, when they let go of the baseball, it's just got a different sound when it comes out of their hand and hits the mitt. And I'll tell you, I was sitting behind home plate for one of Cooper's outings back in the fall, and it had a different kind of sound about it. I think Van Horn even said something the other day. You know, it's kind of whizzing and moving and, you know, screaming and it's I'm interested to see how he does.
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[00:18:59] Speaker A: Well, I think Gackel is going to be their Friday guy and I think he's earned that by what he's done here the first two years. And he was the Friday guy last year, at least at the start of the season. And so I think he's going to be their Friday guy.
I think Dietz will probably be their number two. I don't know that, but I suspect he will be just based on how the coaches are talking about him. And then I think the number three role is between Colin Fisher and Cole Gibler.
Now, what they did last year, remember they had four guys that were battling for three positions last year and they had that opening series against Washington State. And so they just started all four of them and said, hey, whoever pitches the best out of these, these four, you know, those are going to be our starters next week, too.
And I think they're going to do that differently this year. I don't, I don't think you're, because, you know, they stay over and they play Tarleton State on Monday in Arlington. I don't think you're going to see, let's say Cole Gibler is not the number three starter and Colin Fisher is and this is all hypothetical, but I don't think you're going to see Cole Gibler be held until Monday to pitch against Tarleton State. I think you're going to see him go into the bullpen and have a big bullpen role. Same thing if Colin Fisher were to not get the starting job. I think he would go into the bullpen and he would have a significant bullpen role. You were talking about what came out of the Swatters Club. You know, you kind of read between the lines a little bit what Van Horn was saying about Cole Gibler and he seems to really like him out of the bullpen. And you know, Fisher, he's pitched out of the bullpen before, but I think he's had his most successful in a starter role. I think Gibler's just got some stuff, you know, in his repertoire. You know, that, that breaking pitch that he throws to go with the, you know, the fastball, it really complements one another. And I think that he has, you know, he looks more like a big time relief arm to me. And so I, you know, you heard Dave Van Horn reference that on Monday, saying that you like having that type of weapon in the bullpen. So we'll, we'll see what shakes out there. But that's kind of how I think the rotation is going to go opening weekend. I'll be, I'd never say I'm surprised by anything, but I think Gabe Gackel will probably be their number one. I think Hunter Dietz will probably be their number two.
And then, you know, we'll see what happens with number three. And I'll also say this, sometimes the matchups can determine, you know, what order you throw those, those pitchers in based on who you're playing.
[00:21:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I wanted to ask about that because it's not like going down there for this. You know, you're playing different teams. It's not like your normal weekend series where you're, you know, facing the same lineup over and over. How in the past have they kind of handled whenever. I know you go into that, that it's all matchup based, but you look at it and, you know, TCU is ranked, I think, are they top 10 preseason where you know, you know, they're number 10. Probably have that one circled as just a big game. Like do they normally throw your. How do they handle the pitchers whenever you're facing different teams down there?
[00:21:54] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good question. And I don't, I think that my personal belief is two things. Number one, remember that this is not always the season opening trip to Arlington. Sometimes it's week two. I don't think it's ever been week three, but it's not always week one.
But what I think you do, week one, I think you set up your rotation based on how you think the guys are throwing, kind of based on what you think you have too, you know, do you think you have three or four really legitimate good starters? And I think this team does, you know, so I think you set up your rotation based on what you want your rotation to look like, ideally in four or five weeks.
So that's kind of how I would handle it if I were coaching the team. Now I'm not coaching the team, but that's what I think goes into the equation.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
Want to pivot a little bit to something kind of random. But I can't tell you how many times, like, I've brought up Arkansas baseball in recent weeks. And like the first thing people want to ask about is, why are they building a new scoreboard? Like, it is like, this scoreboard has stolen people's like, attention, I guess maybe clear up a little bit just like the scoreboard situation, like why people felt it was needed and why all that stuff? Because there's a lot of people, I think, that kind of view this scoreboard as like some unnecessary spending maybe.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Well, so I would, I would encourage them to go sit in right field for a game, especially like on the Mackie's Landing and the loads boxes. You can't see the right field score or the scoreboards in right center field. You can't see it from those seats at all. And then even, you know, down the line, say like section 99, I think there's a.98 is the last section of the ballpark. You can see it from there, but it's not a great, you know, line of sight to that scoreboard. This is not, I mean, Ole Miss did this several years ago where they put a. Another scoreboard in kind of, I think it's down there, right field line kind of on the side of a building that's down the right field line that's more visible from other areas of the ballpark.
And so I don't think Arkansas is unique in this. I mean, the College World Series this year. If you go there, they just put in a second video board there.
So it doesn't surprise me. I think, you know, what happened was there are people who sit out there in right field who were saying, we can't see the replays, we can't see the video board.
And I think somebody or somebody's stepped up and said, hey, I'll give you money for this if you will build this. And I think that's where that came from.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: Want to end on this. You wrote on the Fowler center not long ago, you know, the indoor facility where the team practices and how there Is a correlation there. If you look at just how the defensive improvements have gone over the years, a lot of it can probably be attributed to that facility. For people who've never been inside there or seen what all that facility entails, what are some of the top things that you think make it, you know, such a conducive area for the team to go inside whenever, like, they have the past, you know, however long, I don't know. When did they get back on the field? This week?
[00:25:07] Speaker A: I'm assuming they took batting practice outside a couple of days ago. So, yeah, they've been back out, but.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: They spent a lot of time in the Fowler Center.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: You have to this time of year. Yeah, yeah, you have to this time of year. It's.
Well, number one, what makes it unique is that you've got the full infield in there.
You know, it's the 90ft between bases. It's the 60 and a half feet from home plate to the pitcher's mound. Like, all of, you know, it's a regulation infield where you can do a lot of defensive work.
And, you know, you look at the numbers before the Fowler center was open, I don't have the numbers here in front of me, but I think I remember them pretty well.
The first 12 years that Dave Van Horn was at Arkansas, their average fielding percentage was.965.
In the 10 years that they've had the Fowler center, the 10 full years, you don't count 20, 20 because the season got shut down. But in the 10 full years since they've had the Fowler center, their fielding average is.977.
They have lowered their number of errors per game by almost a half an error per game, from like 1.3, I think, to 0.8 errors per game.
Last five years, they have ranked first or second in the SEC in fielding percentage. Last year, they were second in the country in fielding percentage, and they had the best fielding percentage ever at Arkansas. One of the really interesting things I found was that pre Fowler center, the school record for fielding Percentage, I think, was.974 in 1989.
In the 10 years since they built the Fowler center, they've had a fielding percentage better than.974 seven times. And so you, you know, I think it all goes into, you know, it tells you that.
And. And then you just kind of use your eyes too.
Used to, you know, like, I'm just going to throw out a year here. I don't know if the. The defense was bad, you know, but let's say, like, just kind of this era, 2009 to 2013, 14, you would watch them on opening weekend and they're just booting the ball around everywhere because they hadn't had, you know, as, as good a defensive practice, I guess, you know, an ability to practice defense before the season began. You watch them now when they go down to Arlington next week and you know, maybe I'm gonna, you know, maybe I'm a jinx them here by saying this, but, you know, a lot of times you see them on these opening weekends, they don't commit an error, or maybe they commit one error in three or four games. And while the other teams out there and they're kicking it around, you know, a team that comes down from the north and they haven't been able to, to get outside. And so I think that's the real benefit of the Fowler center is the defensive work that they're able to do in there. It is a little tricky. Dave Van Horn and Bobby Werness both told me that when you field as an infielder, when you're on a turf field, it can cause you to get a little bit lazy, you know, because the ball does jump a little bit more. And so they're really hard on them when they go in the Fowler center about moving their feet and charging the ball and attacking, you know, the same way that you would do when you're outside on the grass and the dirt.
But yeah, I think their infield defense especially has gotten so much better since they've gotten into the Fowler Center. You can't do anything outfield in there because like I said, it's just a regulation infield. And then there's a big wall back behind second base. And so when you hear them say that, you know, Nolan Souza hit a three run home run during an indoor scrimmage. What he actually did was he hit a ball really hard and it banged off that wall. And then they used Trackman to say, well, that went 417ft at a launch angle of whatever degrees that was going to be a home run outside. So you go ahead and round the bases and apparently get pretty lively in there because the players can see these metrics too, you know, and they'll yell at the coaches and say, no way that's a home run. No, you're out, you know, and it's. But, but that's what the practices look like in there. The lighting is really good. They've got nets all around the field that make it, you know, pretty safe for the spectators around there.
And you know, you just try to simulate a game as best you can. And I think, you know, the you look at since 2015, I think they've been to five College World Series since then, won a bunch of SEC titles. I think that there's a pretty direct correlation to the work that they're able to do in the Fowler center on the days when the weather's bad to the success that they've had over the last 10, 11 years.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: Well, Matt, thanks for hopping on a video chat. Miss you here at the desk with us. But yeah, but hey, it's good to see you in at least some capacity. You can keep up with all Matt's baseball
[email protected] he covers the team extensively, and I know we're all excited to see how they do this season. We'll be back with another podcast tomorrow, but until then, everyone, hope you have a great Thursday.
